"Othello" is about the greatness of human beings, while "Star Trek" is about the smallness of human beings?

What's the baffling comment?

But Christopher is not angry, but full of confusion, because the way of Langley's expression - human standing in front of nature is humble, while the human fighting against nature is great, which is "Othello"; It is insignificant for human beings to stand in the long river of time, and the human beings who try to fight against time are even more powerless. This is "interstellar crossing".

In this way, does it mean that the motif of "Star Trek" is more grand and profound than "Othello"?

Do you mean this?

Christopher was thinking carefully, but lanli suddenly stopped. He knew that lanli's words must have not been finished, so he couldn't help but cast his eyes in the past. After all, he couldn't resist the curiosity and expectation. He couldn't help but hasten to say, "and then?"

In terms of calm and wisdom, in terms of dealing with people and things, Christopher is far from the opponent of Langley.

After breaking Christopher's social mask, he immediately returned to his professional field and kept calm. He said again, "but it's just because of the vastness and magnificence of time that reflects the warmth and eternity of human nature. Even if death separates people from each other, and even if time and space become an insurmountable gap, the fetters of human emotion still cannot be cut off, let alone disappear. "

In the second half of the "Star Trek" story, Cooper falls into the hypercube of five dimensional space-time.

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, it is impossible to go back to the past, even if you enter high-dimensional space-time and spy on the past images; In the movie, it is calculated again, which can make a subtle impact on the past through gravitational wave passing through time.

Cooper, who is deeply immersed in five dimensional space-time, can see all the time, from the past to the future. It is simply understood that time is a solid linear object. Cooper can see every moment from the beginning to the end, and then with the help of gravitational waves, he can have an impact on what happened at a certain moment in the past.

Entering the hypercube, Cooper realizes that he seems to be trapped in an eternal time cycle, and he is likely to never go back, which makes him start to fear and panic. He is afraid that he will never go back, and that he will never fulfill his promise to his daughter.

So, when he saw the past through the five dimensional space-time, his daughter Murphy in her childhood.

At that time, Cooper was still on the earth, and Murphy and Tom were still around him. Cooper tried to shake the bookshelf by gravitational waves to attract Murphy's attention. He also reminded Murphy by the secret signs of the books, hoping that Murphy could leave himself on the earth at that time, rather than participate in this expedition.

But he failed.

From the first dimension, Cooper's belief of going home wholeheartedly overcame all difficulties and wrote a human epic like Othello; Moreover, the story environment extends from the sea to space, and the whole grand and vast temperament becomes more and more magnificent.

From the second dimension, even if Cooper can't go home, Murphy still firmly believes in his father. The fetters between them are beyond the barriers of time and space, which can't be erased or cut off. This is the greatest and most determined core meaning in the long history of human existence.

In Langley's view, even if "Star Trek" is interpreted from the first dimension, it is great enough; However, if it is limited to the first dimension, it will inevitably deviate from the original intention of Nolan brothers in writing the script

Which is more important, emotion or time?

The answer of the first dimension is the former, which is also the perceptual interpretation of human beings from the emotional level, because emotions are rich and mixed, the fetters and connections of happiness, anger, sadness and happiness. In the long history of human beings, countless classic works have been deduced and become the foundation of human society.

The answer of the second dimension is the latter, which is a rational interpretation of human nature after stripping sensibility. After all, human beings can't overcome time, and the confinement of time and space can't be broken through; But the greatest human emotional entanglement can break through the time itself, and the older the better.

In a sense, the interpretation of the second dimension is based on the first dimension, with a philosophical perspective to give more deepening, adding a link of "seeing mountains is not mountains", and finally returning to the starting point of "seeing mountains or mountains", which also makes the film have more interpretation possibilities.

Of course, from the director's point of view, there will be no essential change in the way of shooting; But from the point of view of writers and actors, there are subtle differences in what they need to add and understand.

In Langley's view, Nolan brothers created the script of "Star Trek", the core of which is really magnificent, and the finished film does elevate human nature to the height of time, but the lack of philosophical speculation makes the huge idea of the film seem a little simple - the way of presentation is a little simple, so that it has the meaning of a god stick.

Not bad, but not enough.

The great and detached Swedish director Ingmar Bergman, Italian director Federico Fellini, Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky and so on, why can they be called masters?

The fundamental reason is not that they can complete the philosophical speculation, but that they can present it through the lens and pictures.

The presentation of dreams, the construction of illusions and the capture of realistic scenes are the essence of these scenes without lines, including objects or furnishings with metaphors, actions or plots with spiritual refraction, etc. in this way, the deep meaning of thoughts and souls can be presented——

Or religion, or family, or trauma, or poverty, or disaster, these factors form the existing personality, and derive the human behavior.

If someone is curious about the difference between a screenwriter and a director, then the pictures of these directors are the best answer. The writer is responsible for telling stories, while the director is responsible for building the whole world. It has been said that Ingmar Bergman's lens is "divine", which is the shock brought by the film, and even the height that the actors and writers can't reach.

In the finished film of Christopher Nolan, his camera image only shows the first dimension of the mystery, which makes the discussion of time and emotion in the film can not be further expanded.

Of course, this is not criticism.

For any director, it is very difficult to present the core of the first dimension; Moreover, it is closer to the appreciation level of the general public - after all, not everyone is keen to explore the spiritual world and the depth of the soul. This is also Christopher's best director who is widely praised as "finding a balance between business and art", following Steven Spielberg and James Cameron, He is the third director in the past 20 years to win such a review.

This is not even a discussion and analysis of Langley as an actor.

But as a philosophy lover. In other words, it is actually one of the influences brought by noble education. After receiving more edification in philosophy, literature, art and other aspects, it is inevitable that they still hope to have a more in-depth discussion. If it's pure popcorn like "Transformers", it's enough to relax and enjoy it; But "interstellar crossing" obviously has more possibilities, so it can't help exploring.

By the way, the best candidate in the history of space movies is "2001 Space Odyssey". In fact, Stanley Kubrick's original English name is "2001: A-Space Odyssey". In other words, Stanley Kubrick was trying to shoot an odyssey in outer space at that time.

But the reason why the film goes down in history is because of what Langley just discussed——

The film not only discusses human nature, but also discusses the ultimate speculative subject of divinity and human nature in the vast starry sky.

This information and ability has gone beyond the basic story of Odyssey itself. This is also an important reason for Stanley Kubrick's admiration. Even Christopher Nolan bowed to the top director. In 2018, with great respect, Christopher took over the film restoration work of "2001 Space Odyssey" and landed at the Cannes Film Festival in 2018.

Langley and Christopher had a debate.

As one of the screenwriters, Christopher never gives up. He thinks that the script world constructed by him and Jonathan is enough to support the whole core idea. If he goes further, the balance between art and business will collapse; But lanli's speculation and deepening have all been reflected in the script, there is no need to continue to explore——

The philosophical debate between emotion and time is too abstruse and complicated to be explored in commercial films.

He agreed that the film should give up some tedious thinking for the sake of commercial part, but did not agree with Christopher's view that "this is enough". The film can completely pass a simple picture, a flashback, an imagination, a meditation and so on, leaving the audience more room for reflection at the philosophical level——

If it's an ordinary audience, it's better to enjoy it as popcorn; But if they are willing to calm down and think, the audience can produce more critical core through the film.

In the quarrel, Lan Li even made a cruel remark:

"The reason why" Dark Knight "can become a classic lies in the debate between justice and evil in the final analysis. No one, even a clown, can completely deny his practice, because he has his own reason for existence. This kind of right and evil speculation is exactly the reason why the film has risen to a new height. But "Inception" and "the rise of the Dark Knight" are only 80 works. The real reason is that the thinking in the film is single threaded and Paramecium thinking